Dating antique peters cartridge boxes

30-Sep-2017 07:21

The ammo was packed at Lake City Arsenal, September 1966. This M19A1 box represents another style of marking with letters aligned to the left. A recent M19A1 loaded with 7.62mm NATO Ammunition at Lake City Arsenal. The two small dimples on either side of the opener end of the lid on the M19A1 (or early M2A1) boxes held the lid partly open with cartridges ready for use while the side skirts kept out rain and dust. It measures 15-1/4 X 12 X 14-1/2, has 4 clamps (one on each side), two handles and a rubber gasket. Boxes of similar design but of different sizes were used for other types of ammunition. Known as “hermetically sealed ammunition can”. This one is for .30 caliber ammunition in 8 round M-1 Rifle clips (192 rounds) and is from the Twin Cities Arsenal. This one appears to be an M-20 but the can is not marked.

Note the use of symbols as well as letters and numbers. It would appear that the opener clamp would interfere with feeding but it does not seem to be a problem. It measures 6 3/16" X 8 9/16" X 5 3/4".30 Cal Carbine .30 Carbine 10 rd clips/bandoleers .30 Cal rifle M2 .30 Cal rifle 5 rd clips/bandoleers .30 Cal rifle 8 rd clips/bandoleers .30 Cal M2 linked .30 Cal M2 in cartons .45 Cal pistol in cartons .50 Cal in cartons .50 Cal linked .50 Cal linked 12 Gage 00 Shotgun– The type and style of markings on ammo boxes and cans vary depending on when they were packed and the type of ammunition.

Ammunition boxes are often reloaded and relabeled several times. From the design of the lid and color it appears to be an older type. The box has the same lid as the M2A1 .50 caliber box but is 12-1/32 x 6-3/32 x 16-5/16”. Although a small lock will fit, it offers only moderate security. These two pictures show an example of a foreign made and loaded M2A1 style box. It lacks a maker’s name or other identification on the box. The abbreviations of the ordnance plant will be found as a part of the lot number on ammunition boxes and cans and may also be found on cartridges.

The original markings are often painted over with a color similar to the original color and then marked with the new information in yellow. This box was unmarked as to its’ purpose or model number. It measurers 11” L x 5-9/16” W x 9-9/16” D. The “ KA” in the lot number indicates Puzan Government Arsenal Republic of Korea. These were the most common manufacturers of small arms ammunition during WWII: Boxes may have lot numbers or repacked lot numbers.

It has also been found that many newer surplus boxes have been used only once. The box is about one inch higher, one inch longer and one inch wider than the M2A1 (12.9 x 7.29 x 8.9”). Only the functional lot number was required but some boxes listed separate lot numbers for each type of ammunition contained in the box.

Many recent boxes have been found with the original data painted over with tan color paint and the new markings applied (in black) with stencils or even marking pens. When more than one lot of ammo was loaded in a box such as tracers, ball, and armor piercing in belted ammo, all types came under the functional lot number.The M19A1 has National Stock Number (NSN) 8140-00-828-2939. The box has a narrow lid latch similar to the M1A1 box.